We have always been healthy. We don't succumb to colds/flu. We take no medications. Mom is hard pressed to even take aspirin. We have no diabetes, no high cholesterol, no hypertension. We do not eat fried foods, and NEVER partake of fast foods. In fact, we don't eat out in restaurants very often since we can't control how things are cooked. We don't eat frozen dinners or prepared foods. Instead, Mom cooks meals for us regularly that include all food groups, including vegetables. She never adds salt to her cooking, making her meals a bit bland. (Our guilty pleasures, however, were eating meat nearly every night of the week and obviously, cheese). Dad's been poked and prodded repeatedly since arriving at the hospital. And other than when he was in the midst of his heart attack, his vitals and Labs are excellent. (Blood pressure is textbook and cholesterol levels quite reasonable. Ironic, ain't it!) Mom donates blood regularly, receiving these vital stats each time. The vampires are always looking for her (coincidently, she donated blood just 3 hours before our saga started.)
We have paid insurance premiums for decades, always representing the healthy sector of the pool. We always paid into the pot, RARELY took out. We have always had insurance, even in 2015 when we got caught up in the ACA mandates (see blogs of Feb. 20, 2015 and Feb. 2, 2016). As fulltime RVers, we tried to catch a moving target, changing domiciles from SD to TX in 2015. When TX pulled its only PPO from the exchange the following year, we opted instead for Liberty Healthshare (LHS), a faith-based alternative, a pool of like-minded, faith-based folks who care and share in each other's costs. Like insurance premiums, we contribute a monthly sum for our plan. Since we have been healthy, our contributions have always gone to pay other members' bills. Since we had never utilized our plan in the nearly two years we were members, we were now learning the parameters of our coverage. We have a $1,000 unshared amount (think "deductible".) Then LHS takes all medical bills, negotiates directly with medical facilities/professionals, and pays an agreed price, usually within 30 days. They have an excellent reputation and the testimonials from other members we spoke with said they have had no problems or issues.
Since LHS is exempt from ACA compliance, it does have pre-existing condition clauses, which did not present any real problem for us. LHS does require pre-certifications for non-emergency surgeries and other procedures.
LHS and the hospital have been wonderful, handling everything seamlessly. The hospital staff, from nurses to case managers, have been pleasant, efficient, and caring. LHS have bee compassionate and patient, dealing with Mom's many inquiries and providing helpful information. This commentary is about the behavior of a specific doctor and what is becoming a systemic problem when the world loses "vocations" and instead has "jobs".
The cardiologist told Mom after the original ER procedure that Dad came in with a 100% blockage, which was now 100% cleared. Dad was doing great and he would be discharged the next day. These statements set Mom's expectations. Mom later learned the doctor apparently told Dad during the procedure that he had two other "moderate" blockages, but that he would not touch them at that time. Mind you, the doctor did not mention these additional blockages to Mom at all! Imagine her shock when the doctor came in mid-day on Nov. 1, which she thought was for discharge, only to learn something quite different. Those other blockages, in the left arterial descending (LAD), and its branch (that the doctor considered moderate when speaking to Dad) are now being classified at 90% and 80%! Therefore, more stents/angioplasty were required. He recommended we do the additional procedure while Dad was already at the hospital rather than wait and do them as outpatient. Mom called LHS about precert, since this is subsequent to the ER visit. She was surprised to learn that all approvals were already in place. Apparently the patient and his wife were last to know that an additional procedure was planned! After discussion and a Q&A with the cardiologist, my parents agreed to move forward with the procedure for Dad the next day.
Mom, who had been at the hospital for more than 24 hours, left to return home to check up on me and take care of our pets. She was ballistic when she arrived home after the 1.5 hour commute to have Dad and the doctor calling her on the phone, and to learn the doctor was changing the plan of action once again. More importantly, the REASON behind this revision in plan.
Apparently, the doctor considered LHS a "charity", and he was not willing to accept the risk of not getting paid for my Dad's, and I quote the doctor, "charity case." Ironically, he had no problem with LHS for the ER work he performed. Now suddenly he says he is not willing to accept this "great risk." What changed in a 1.5 hour timeframe? Did he speak to LHS? Was it the policy of the group practice to which he belongs? (We've learned since then that each and every physician, whether as a sole practitioner or part of a group practice, makes his/her own determination as to what insurances he/she will accept.) We were not given any specifics as to what facilitated the cardiologist's change of heart. We do know the hospital spoke to LHS and had no problem whatsoever billing through them like any insurance company.
The cardiologist was now saying the blockages weren't that bad and Dad could wait to have the procedures done as an outpatient. Which was it? Moderate, which by this stuffed rat's definition is 50-60% max, or 80-90%, which I would consider "severe"? After all the above-mentioned comments were made by all parties, the doctor said we could self pay and he would be happy to deal with us. We certainly would have done this had it been discussed earlier, since we know he is a skilled interventional cardiologist. But his lack of tact and professionalism in making this completely about his personal financial outcome left a bad taste in our mouths. We had lost faith in his credibility. Were the procedures needed because of the severity of the blockages or because he thought he was going to make some money? Did the severity of Dad's condition diminish once the doctor decided, quite erroneously, that it was not going to be in his financial best interest to do surgery accepting payment through LHS?
Everyone has a right to earn a living, doctors included. And had he broached the subject initially with some tact, we all could have come to agreement to self pay. We could have then submitted the bills to LHS for reimbursement. Or we could have spoken to LHS jointly to appease his concerns.
However, referring to LHS and us as a "charity case" is disingenuous and insulting. The Hippocratic Oath was to serve the sick and infirmed. Apparently, this cardiologist took a hypocritic, not hippocratic oath.
Going from no medical issues to major cardiac problems is challenging enough. But it is an even more disconcerting and scary situation when dealing with a physician, whom you know nothing about going into the ER, formulates diagnoses and opinions based ONLY on financial factors and not patient well being.
My parents agreed they would discuss things further when Mom returned to the hospital before determining next steps. Hence, the cardiologist left the procedure on his surgical schedule. But while Mom started her 1.5 hour drive back to the hospital, Dad took matters into his own hands and summoned his case worker. He decided he did not want the original cardiologist to touch him, since his own financial well being came before Dad's health and condition. Dad wanted a second cardiologist to be brought in for consultation. By this time, Mom was back at the hospital. It was hours later that the second cardiologist came to speak with them. He deemed the blockages severe (see, this rat may be stuffed, but he ain't stupid). Mom and Dad asked all the same questions, and Mom continued to take notes, something she did throughout this ordeal. We asked if there were an issues dealing with LHS. The second cardiologist said he wasn't worried about payment and insurance. He just wanted to fix Dad's issues. Thankfully, this physician understands his oath.
Through God's divine intervention and the surgical abilities he bestowed upon Man, and through the many prayers of our friends, family, and RV community, Dad is alive and kicking, two stents and an angioplasty later. He was discharged from the hospital just hours after the second procedure, and we are all feeling better, physically and emotionally.
We had our follow-up visits at the second cardiologist's office and with our PCP, who attributed 90% of Dad's issues to genetics (Dad's own father died of a heart attack before age 50).
We have learned many things from this crisis.
1)Live each day to its fullest. The here and now is all we have for certain.
2)There are no longer vocations, only "jobs".
3)Getting second opinions is important, as is dealing with caring, compassionate physicians that you can trust, ask questions, and in whom you can put your faith.
4)Even the healthiest of people are vulnerable to heart attack, with genetics playing a huge role.
5)My Parents have altered their diets to eat more plant-based foods and less meat and dairy. Yes, I'm the only one eating cheese in our home now!
6)It is important to have a family member available to ask questions, take notes, and act as advocate. Through Mom's urging, Dad obtained copies of all his medical records. Mom poured through them, and found downright falsehoods recorded by the first cardiologist regarding why we switched to another provider. There were also errors in the list of medications they reported Dad was taking. She is now in the process of trying to get amended reports (Good luck with that, Mom!).
7)Mom, who was always the strong one of our family in crisis, who Grandma called her "Rock of Gibraltar", isn't as tough as everyone thinks.
We don't know yet how much of the medical costs associated with this situation will be covered through LHS. But money matters little if our loved ones are not around to share it. We are just so grateful that Daddy is alive and kicking and will be able to enjoy our new off road vehicle!
Thanks to all for your hugs, love, words of encouragement, and most importantly, your prayers.
We would like to thank some amazing organizations for all they do for the RVing community:
WTH!!! Glad dad came thru that experience! Almost had a heart attack reading your blog. Popo you better be working out, it'll be you on the roof now to lower/raise the side-by-side.
ReplyDeleteWow. First off thank you for sharing this detailed report of what happened. It’s important other people know the details and thank you very much for opening up. I do want to share that many people in my family are medical practitioners and according to them there has absolutely been a shift in the way those jobs are viewed. That being said there are still good providers out there and good for Les for not letting that bad apple touch him. As far as referring to you as a charity case I highly recommend you register a formal complaint t with the hospital. The surgeons can’t make money if they don’t have access to hospital facilities and trust me they will take that seriously. You can also file a formal complaint with the AMA. Again this is a highly regulated industry and getting poor reviews is a very big deal. If enough people complain a physician can lose their license.
ReplyDeleteSo glad physically you are ok and so sorry you had to go through this
What an ordeal you all endured. The last thing you needed was the additional stress from your first doctor. So glad you found a good one and Les is doing well. Soon we'll be sharing some dust on the Q trails!
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Had not heard of your medical problems until this post. We were shocked young man! And yes medical profession, and treatments have changed since I am sorry to say since Obama was in office. My PCP now spends more time on the computer now instead of discussing my health. he even acknowledges that fact through it all we are so happy you are still “alive and kicking”per Popo.
ReplyDeleteCrazy! Glad to hear you were able to negotiate through this mess! Les, you need to take it easy! Sue, you need to raise some hell!
ReplyDeleteWow! I'm so glad I knew the good outcome before I started reading this post. It is so sad to realize how our medical system is broken in so many ways. I have to say after having considered LHS for our "insurance", I'm happy with our decision to move our domicile to Florida to be on a Blue Cross nation-wide PPO. "Hypocritical" doctors can be anywhere - you never know. But I hope none of us come across one any time soon.
ReplyDeleteMy heart attack at 45 (and female) also presented as if I was having an asthma attack. Thankfully hubby recommended going to urgent care for a breathing treatment!
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